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		<title>By: Highschoolers aren&#8217;t all bad ;-) &#124; Lenz on Learning</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Highschoolers aren&#8217;t all bad ;-) &#124; Lenz on Learning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] friend Elsa recently wrote this response to my &#8220;Bullying&#8221; article. I wanted to repeat it here, because it adds some needed perspective to the negative [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] friend Elsa recently wrote this response to my &#8220;Bullying&#8221; article. I wanted to repeat it here, because it adds some needed perspective to the negative [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Lenz</title>
		<link>https://lenzonlearning.com/2009/11/bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Elsa, thanks so much for your comments. I think you&#039;re probably right that this post could mislead people by painting too negative a picture of high school. It wasn&#039;t as if everyone was mean. I made some good friends in my 3 years in high school. The vast majority of kids were friendly and nice to me. It&#039;s unfortunate that only a couple of people (one in particular) could have such a negative influence on my overall experience.

I&#039;ll reflect some more on my high school experience. Apart from bullying, I still wasn&#039;t particularly impressed by the experience. I can think of some peak moments, like reciting Hamlet soliloquies for my English class (and happily accepting my teacher&#039;s offer to swap more performances for incompleted book reports). A field trip to Ashland for the Shakespeare festival (with that same class) also stands out as really positive. But these were really hit-and-miss. The majority of the time, I was bored and unimpressed. And there are a few bitter memories, such as when my advisor talked me out of skipping a grade of math, or when my joke of a biology teacher (who later got fired for inappropriate relations with a female student) told me &quot;you think too much&quot;. Or when I got my first B, in traffic safety of all things. Oops, I&#039;m lapsing into negativity again, sorry. :-)

I finally got through it all and went off to college, where in my first year, I matured more than all those three years of high school combined. When I compare my high school and college experiences, they&#039;re like night and day. I knew I was in for a different experience when my academic advisor in college didn&#039;t hesitate one moment to let me jump right into the upper-level &quot;History of Philosophy&quot; course as a Freshman just because I wanted to! I intend to go back to school one day (and never return, moving into an academic career). For all my love of academia, you have to wonder why I&#039;m so negative on high school and everything preceding it. I think it comes down to the forced aspect of public education. Generally, college students are there because they choose to (although I fear that&#039;s changing too these days).

I&#039;m glad that you&#039;re flourishing in high school, both academically and socially. And I know that you want to be there. And I&#039;m especially glad that your transition to high school was the opposite of mine (a relief instead of an ambush).

[Wow, that was a long comment. Don&#039;t be surprised if you see me recycle this as a blog post. :-) ]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Elsa, thanks so much for your comments. I think you&#8217;re probably right that this post could mislead people by painting too negative a picture of high school. It wasn&#8217;t as if everyone was mean. I made some good friends in my 3 years in high school. The vast majority of kids were friendly and nice to me. It&#8217;s unfortunate that only a couple of people (one in particular) could have such a negative influence on my overall experience.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll reflect some more on my high school experience. Apart from bullying, I still wasn&#8217;t particularly impressed by the experience. I can think of some peak moments, like reciting Hamlet soliloquies for my English class (and happily accepting my teacher&#8217;s offer to swap more performances for incompleted book reports). A field trip to Ashland for the Shakespeare festival (with that same class) also stands out as really positive. But these were really hit-and-miss. The majority of the time, I was bored and unimpressed. And there are a few bitter memories, such as when my advisor talked me out of skipping a grade of math, or when my joke of a biology teacher (who later got fired for inappropriate relations with a female student) told me &#8220;you think too much&#8221;. Or when I got my first B, in traffic safety of all things. Oops, I&#8217;m lapsing into negativity again, sorry. <img src="https://lenzonlearning.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/simple-smile.png" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>I finally got through it all and went off to college, where in my first year, I matured more than all those three years of high school combined. When I compare my high school and college experiences, they&#8217;re like night and day. I knew I was in for a different experience when my academic advisor in college didn&#8217;t hesitate one moment to let me jump right into the upper-level &#8220;History of Philosophy&#8221; course as a Freshman just because I wanted to! I intend to go back to school one day (and never return, moving into an academic career). For all my love of academia, you have to wonder why I&#8217;m so negative on high school and everything preceding it. I think it comes down to the forced aspect of public education. Generally, college students are there because they choose to (although I fear that&#8217;s changing too these days).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that you&#8217;re flourishing in high school, both academically and socially. And I know that you want to be there. And I&#8217;m especially glad that your transition to high school was the opposite of mine (a relief instead of an ambush).</p>
<p>[Wow, that was a long comment. Don&#8217;t be surprised if you see me recycle this as a blog post. <img src="https://lenzonlearning.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/simple-smile.png" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> ]</p>
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		<title>By: Elsa</title>
		<link>https://lenzonlearning.com/2009/11/bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a very interesting story, and oddly almost the opposite of what I experienced when I transitioned for an alternative program to a public high school. Going in I was very nervous about other kids and what they might say or do... I feel like I may have seen to many horror stories on after school specials. Thankfully I was pleasantly surprised. Despite the fact that all my classes were with total strangers, I felt very welcomed by my school community. I made new friends, and people were by and large very nice to me. It saddens me to hear about those painful times you went through, but I think you might be giving high schoolers too much of a bad rap. In my experience we are generally a lot nicer than people give us credit for. I was not ostracized when I transferred in from that strange hippy school called options. I hope that your story is the exception rather than the rule.  I&#039;ve really enjoyed my high school, and the people I&#039;ve met there]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a very interesting story, and oddly almost the opposite of what I experienced when I transitioned for an alternative program to a public high school. Going in I was very nervous about other kids and what they might say or do&#8230; I feel like I may have seen to many horror stories on after school specials. Thankfully I was pleasantly surprised. Despite the fact that all my classes were with total strangers, I felt very welcomed by my school community. I made new friends, and people were by and large very nice to me. It saddens me to hear about those painful times you went through, but I think you might be giving high schoolers too much of a bad rap. In my experience we are generally a lot nicer than people give us credit for. I was not ostracized when I transferred in from that strange hippy school called options. I hope that your story is the exception rather than the rule.  I&#8217;ve really enjoyed my high school, and the people I&#8217;ve met there</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Schlentz</title>
		<link>https://lenzonlearning.com/2009/11/bullying/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Schlentz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evan, nice insightful piece. Good, thoughtful read. Appreciate you putting it out there. Peace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan, nice insightful piece. Good, thoughtful read. Appreciate you putting it out there. Peace.</p>
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