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		<title>By: Evan Lenz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Frank, It&#039;s good to hear from you. Thanks for reading. You make a good point about *worry*. It&#039;s pretty contagious too. Every time I read dire reports like that article, I start panicking and thinking &quot;Am I doing the right thing for my kids?&quot; But then I regain perspective and recognize it for what it is---socially conditioned fear that has little basis in reality. Re-reading &quot;A Mathematician&#039;s Lament&quot; was a breath of fresh air, re-ignited my faith in the human imagination and drive for learning, and widened my perspective again. It&#039;s amazing how worked up we can get when we look at things with a magnifying glass, taking a narrow, constricted view, and fool ourselves into thinking that what we&#039;re looking at is the whole story, or all that matters.

I&#039;m also surprised at how little diversity there is among the 50-some comments on that article. Everyone is accepting the debate as framed and pitching their tent in one of the textbook camps. I find this way more alarming than the phenomenon of poor math test scores after 12 years of forced education. That no one is questioning the whole enterprise---that&#039;s pretty disturbing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frank, It&#8217;s good to hear from you. Thanks for reading. You make a good point about *worry*. It&#8217;s pretty contagious too. Every time I read dire reports like that article, I start panicking and thinking &#8220;Am I doing the right thing for my kids?&#8221; But then I regain perspective and recognize it for what it is&#8212;socially conditioned fear that has little basis in reality. Re-reading &#8220;A Mathematician&#8217;s Lament&#8221; was a breath of fresh air, re-ignited my faith in the human imagination and drive for learning, and widened my perspective again. It&#8217;s amazing how worked up we can get when we look at things with a magnifying glass, taking a narrow, constricted view, and fool ourselves into thinking that what we&#8217;re looking at is the whole story, or all that matters.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also surprised at how little diversity there is among the 50-some comments on that article. Everyone is accepting the debate as framed and pitching their tent in one of the textbook camps. I find this way more alarming than the phenomenon of poor math test scores after 12 years of forced education. That no one is questioning the whole enterprise&#8212;that&#8217;s pretty disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Evan, 

I remember you from the Protocols group at Microsoft a coupla years ago and the LIFE is Good Unschooling Conference, too. Seems like y&#039;all are happily settled into your life. Glad to hear it. 

I really enjoyed the Mathematician&#039;s Lament and I often say that it took me a decade after college to recover enough from &quot;math education&quot; to enjoy math for its own beauty. School turns it into such drudgery. Well, school did that to me for poetry, literature, history, etc. too; so math isn&#039;t unique in that respect, it&#039;s just that as a nation we *worry* about it so much. We don&#039;t really worry about people&#039;s ability to  &quot;do&quot; poetry. Nobody working at McDonald&#039;s needs to calculate how many iambs you get back if you give them a dactyllic hexameter for a regular cheesburger which is worth a spondaic pentameter. 

What&#039;s the old chestnut about the definition of insanity being a repetition of something over and over while expecting different results? The UW guy complains about the ineffective &quot;new&quot; methods of math instruction and wants to return to the &quot;classic&quot; methods but the new methods were introduced because the classic methods were such an abysmal failure. Obviously, we should try them again; maybe this time we&#039;ll get a different result. 

Or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Evan, </p>
<p>I remember you from the Protocols group at Microsoft a coupla years ago and the LIFE is Good Unschooling Conference, too. Seems like y&#8217;all are happily settled into your life. Glad to hear it. </p>
<p>I really enjoyed the Mathematician&#8217;s Lament and I often say that it took me a decade after college to recover enough from &#8220;math education&#8221; to enjoy math for its own beauty. School turns it into such drudgery. Well, school did that to me for poetry, literature, history, etc. too; so math isn&#8217;t unique in that respect, it&#8217;s just that as a nation we *worry* about it so much. We don&#8217;t really worry about people&#8217;s ability to  &#8220;do&#8221; poetry. Nobody working at McDonald&#8217;s needs to calculate how many iambs you get back if you give them a dactyllic hexameter for a regular cheesburger which is worth a spondaic pentameter. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the old chestnut about the definition of insanity being a repetition of something over and over while expecting different results? The UW guy complains about the ineffective &#8220;new&#8221; methods of math instruction and wants to return to the &#8220;classic&#8221; methods but the new methods were introduced because the classic methods were such an abysmal failure. Obviously, we should try them again; maybe this time we&#8217;ll get a different result. </p>
<p>Or not.</p>
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